1 00:00:07,633 --> 00:00:09,093 Hey, pumpkin. 2 00:00:09,176 --> 00:00:12,346 What are you doing? 3 00:00:12,429 --> 00:00:14,890 Abby was very artistic, very creative. 4 00:00:14,973 --> 00:00:17,184 She just enjoyed helping other people. 5 00:00:17,267 --> 00:00:19,979 Libby was a ball of sunshine. 6 00:00:20,062 --> 00:00:22,731 She would have made great changes in this world. 7 00:00:22,814 --> 00:00:24,525 -We like Gina and Pam. -Martin. 8 00:00:24,608 --> 00:00:26,360 -We gon' pose for this cam. -Cheese. 9 00:00:26,443 --> 00:00:28,362 We don't want your man. 10 00:00:28,445 --> 00:00:30,531 Libby and Abby were the best of friends. 11 00:00:30,614 --> 00:00:33,075 I'm her bestie. I am. 12 00:00:33,158 --> 00:00:39,123 The person that did this to these girls is pure evil. 13 00:00:41,667 --> 00:00:43,252 Neighbors in Delphi, Indiana, 14 00:00:43,335 --> 00:00:47,381 stunned at the tragic murders of two teenage girls. 15 00:00:47,464 --> 00:00:48,799 We're checking the cell phones. 16 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:50,176 We're checking their social media. 17 00:00:50,259 --> 00:00:51,385 Nobody ever thought something like this 18 00:00:51,468 --> 00:00:53,679 would happen in Delphi. 19 00:00:53,762 --> 00:00:56,348 Just felt like a horror movie. 20 00:00:56,431 --> 00:00:58,184 Liberty German captured this image 21 00:00:58,267 --> 00:01:00,519 and audio in the moments before her death. 22 00:01:02,437 --> 00:01:03,939 He became known as Bridge Guy. 23 00:01:04,022 --> 00:01:05,065 Investigators want to speak 24 00:01:05,148 --> 00:01:06,567 to the man in this photo. 25 00:01:06,650 --> 00:01:07,568 Police are now releasing 26 00:01:07,651 --> 00:01:09,236 a detailed sketch of the suspect. 27 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,280 Is it a neighbor? Is it an acquaintance? 28 00:01:11,363 --> 00:01:13,282 Bridge Guy is the bogeyman. 29 00:01:13,365 --> 00:01:14,575 Could that be my dad? 30 00:01:14,658 --> 00:01:16,911 What if somebody I know did this? 31 00:01:16,994 --> 00:01:19,038 The Bridge Guy video captured people's attention 32 00:01:19,121 --> 00:01:21,123 all around the world. 33 00:01:21,206 --> 00:01:22,458 Two girls murdered. 34 00:01:22,541 --> 00:01:23,626 In Delphi, Indiana. 35 00:01:23,709 --> 00:01:25,044 The Delphi murders. 36 00:01:25,127 --> 00:01:26,462 -Delphi. -Delphi. 37 00:01:26,545 --> 00:01:29,256 It's just a bloodlust for the gruesome details 38 00:01:29,339 --> 00:01:30,591 and a witch hunt. 39 00:01:30,674 --> 00:01:32,509 Nobody could have imagined 40 00:01:32,592 --> 00:01:34,929 30,000 tips from people all over the world. 41 00:01:35,012 --> 00:01:36,680 Police say they obtained probable cause 42 00:01:36,763 --> 00:01:38,140 to search the home. 43 00:01:38,223 --> 00:01:40,517 Libby was speaking to a sex predator. 44 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,729 There were ritualistic aspects to the crime scene. 45 00:01:43,812 --> 00:01:45,605 Odinism, human sacrifice. 46 00:01:48,442 --> 00:01:49,902 It came as a complete shock. 47 00:01:49,985 --> 00:01:51,403 More than five years after those two 48 00:01:51,486 --> 00:01:53,322 young girls vanished, a man is now in custody. 49 00:01:53,405 --> 00:01:56,033 Do you really expect us to buy this? 50 00:01:56,116 --> 00:01:58,827 You had 70 days of interviews that were lost. 51 00:01:58,910 --> 00:02:01,163 None of the errors or technical difficulties 52 00:02:01,246 --> 00:02:02,998 that we had were intentional. 53 00:02:03,081 --> 00:02:05,751 I'm like, oh, my God, this is an innocent guy. 54 00:02:05,834 --> 00:02:07,002 He's guilty and always will be. 55 00:02:07,085 --> 00:02:09,255 It's been nonstop roller coaster. 56 00:02:09,338 --> 00:02:13,384 We heard people were paying people to sit in line for them. 57 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:15,553 Kind of turned into a true crime playground. 58 00:02:15,636 --> 00:02:19,598 This is entertainment for you, but this is my life. 59 00:02:39,117 --> 00:02:44,206 I describe Delphi as a very quaint, charming community. 60 00:02:44,289 --> 00:02:47,084 Home of the Wabash and Erie Canal. 61 00:02:47,167 --> 00:02:48,377 It's just a small town 62 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:50,629 like if you were watching the Andy Griffith Show. 63 00:02:50,712 --> 00:02:54,383 You have a little town square, a little town of 3,000 people. 64 00:02:54,466 --> 00:02:57,761 Everybody knows everybody. 65 00:02:57,844 --> 00:02:59,221 11 years ago, 66 00:02:59,304 --> 00:03:00,806 we started the Indiana Bacon Festival 67 00:03:00,889 --> 00:03:04,393 because we are the bacon capital in Indiana. 68 00:03:10,649 --> 00:03:13,736 There's trails to walk, fishing, 69 00:03:13,819 --> 00:03:15,863 a lot of nice little restaurants. 70 00:03:15,946 --> 00:03:18,115 Never had crime that we heard about. 71 00:03:18,198 --> 00:03:20,492 I think that's one of the reasons we picked a small town. 72 00:03:24,788 --> 00:03:27,166 When I was growing up, the big joke was 73 00:03:27,249 --> 00:03:29,335 it had one stoplight in the entire town. 74 00:03:29,418 --> 00:03:33,756 And I believe now we have two stoplights. 75 00:03:33,839 --> 00:03:36,884 It's just a good, wholesome area to be in. 76 00:03:36,967 --> 00:03:41,055 Um, at least it used to be. 77 00:03:41,138 --> 00:03:44,058 I miss the innocence of Delphi when we were young. 78 00:03:44,141 --> 00:03:47,311 We had to grow up pretty quick. 79 00:03:47,394 --> 00:03:49,313 It's a community where people didn't even 80 00:03:49,396 --> 00:03:51,231 lock their doors at night. 81 00:03:51,314 --> 00:03:54,818 But that changed. 82 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:04,953 Good. 83 00:04:05,412 --> 00:04:07,998 Yeah, I'm OK. 84 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:09,124 This is Carrie's interview. 85 00:04:09,207 --> 00:04:10,501 Take one, mark. 86 00:04:16,798 --> 00:04:20,260 I grew up not far from Delphi. 87 00:04:20,343 --> 00:04:22,262 I moved there when I was 19. 88 00:04:22,345 --> 00:04:24,097 It was that summer that I met Derrick. 89 00:04:24,973 --> 00:04:28,018 We got married six months after Kelsi was born. 90 00:04:28,101 --> 00:04:31,772 And then we found out that we were pregnant with Libby. 91 00:04:31,855 --> 00:04:35,025 We named her Liberty Rose Lynn. 92 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:36,985 And it's very, very fitting. 93 00:04:37,068 --> 00:04:39,071 She was just a free spirit. 94 00:04:39,154 --> 00:04:41,073 She knew what she wanted, and she was going to get it. 95 00:04:41,156 --> 00:04:43,283 Strong-willed, strong everything. 96 00:04:43,366 --> 00:04:46,453 Like, very, very strong personality-wise. 97 00:04:53,251 --> 00:04:54,545 Come here. 98 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:56,422 Not really sure exactly when things went wrong. 99 00:04:56,505 --> 00:04:58,632 Libby wasn't very old. 100 00:04:58,715 --> 00:05:02,010 Made some pretty poor decisions. 101 00:05:02,093 --> 00:05:03,679 I was incarcerated. 102 00:05:03,762 --> 00:05:05,514 Derrick was incarcerated. 103 00:05:05,597 --> 00:05:06,974 Derrick and I split. 104 00:05:07,057 --> 00:05:10,018 I moved to Kentucky, and Derrick's parents 105 00:05:10,101 --> 00:05:13,522 ended up taking guardianship of the girls. 106 00:05:13,605 --> 00:05:15,315 -Libby was... -Three. 107 00:05:15,398 --> 00:05:18,026 Three years old when they moved in with us, 108 00:05:18,109 --> 00:05:22,531 and we had the honor to raise them. 109 00:05:22,614 --> 00:05:28,745 Libby knew that I was intent on moving back to Indiana, 110 00:05:28,828 --> 00:05:32,666 and Libby and I talked all the time on the phone. 111 00:05:32,749 --> 00:05:36,003 She wanted everyone to be laughing all the time 112 00:05:36,086 --> 00:05:38,130 and always wanted everyone to be happy. 113 00:05:38,213 --> 00:05:41,299 When you decide to be fancy after shaving. 114 00:05:46,972 --> 00:05:48,765 It burns. It burns. 115 00:05:48,848 --> 00:05:51,602 It's red. It burns. It burns. 116 00:05:51,685 --> 00:05:53,145 She always wanted to do crazy things, 117 00:05:53,228 --> 00:05:55,814 you know, get us into any types of trouble 118 00:05:55,897 --> 00:05:57,065 with Grandma and Grandpa. 119 00:05:59,276 --> 00:06:01,570 She had just turned 14, 120 00:06:01,653 --> 00:06:04,197 and she was already growing up so fast. 121 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:09,995 I'm OK. 122 00:06:10,078 --> 00:06:11,872 We're good. 123 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:21,965 I was three months out of high school when I got pregnant, 124 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:25,427 and it obviously was not something 125 00:06:25,510 --> 00:06:28,055 I was ready or prepared for, and I was 126 00:06:28,138 --> 00:06:29,848 very fortunate that I had a family 127 00:06:29,931 --> 00:06:32,559 that helped me through it. 128 00:06:32,642 --> 00:06:34,936 But I wouldn't change anything now. 129 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:40,776 And she came into the world and Mom said, 130 00:06:40,859 --> 00:06:42,569 well, what are you going to call her? 131 00:06:42,652 --> 00:06:44,154 I said, I'm going to go with Abigail. 132 00:06:45,113 --> 00:06:47,199 Aw, pretty. 133 00:06:47,282 --> 00:06:50,911 Well, Abby was the very first grandchild in our house, 134 00:06:50,994 --> 00:06:53,121 and she was the best thing. 135 00:06:53,204 --> 00:06:54,915 You'd be hard-pressed to find someone 136 00:06:54,998 --> 00:06:57,501 that didn't just love her. 137 00:06:57,584 --> 00:06:59,711 Whoa. 138 00:06:59,794 --> 00:07:00,712 She's like... 139 00:07:00,795 --> 00:07:02,589 La, la, la. 140 00:07:02,672 --> 00:07:04,258 Hi, Abigail. 141 00:07:04,341 --> 00:07:06,885 Look at Grandma. 142 00:07:06,968 --> 00:07:10,430 Abigail liked music and liked to read. 143 00:07:10,513 --> 00:07:11,598 She really liked to read. 144 00:07:11,681 --> 00:07:14,184 She was smart and kind and considerate 145 00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:16,687 and very affectionate. 146 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:20,106 Abby had very eccentric taste in her clothing. 147 00:07:21,024 --> 00:07:23,193 She liked a lot of bright colors. 148 00:07:23,276 --> 00:07:27,573 She was... I wouldn't say timid but just very soft-spoken. 149 00:07:27,656 --> 00:07:29,575 Abby was very friendly, and I think 150 00:07:29,658 --> 00:07:32,244 that's why her and Libby clicked so well 151 00:07:32,327 --> 00:07:35,455 is just, they were very, very nice people 152 00:07:35,538 --> 00:07:38,584 and loved everybody. 153 00:07:38,667 --> 00:07:40,711 Abby and Libby were in middle school together. 154 00:07:40,794 --> 00:07:43,213 Libby played the saxophone in band. 155 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:45,924 Both of them did, and they sat next to each other. 156 00:07:46,007 --> 00:07:47,676 They played volleyball together. 157 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:50,429 And I think they just hit it off and were good friends. 158 00:07:50,512 --> 00:07:53,765 Libby and Abby tried to spend every moment 159 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:55,225 they could together. 160 00:07:55,308 --> 00:07:58,603 And they just... they loved each other a lot. 161 00:08:00,438 --> 00:08:06,194 Abby went on vacation with us to Florida one year. 162 00:08:06,277 --> 00:08:07,904 She had a blast. 163 00:08:07,987 --> 00:08:11,033 We always would take our family trip up to northern Michigan. 164 00:08:11,116 --> 00:08:14,620 She asked if she could, you know, bring Libby with her, 165 00:08:14,703 --> 00:08:16,747 and Mom said, maybe next summer. 166 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:19,791 Only we didn't get next summer. 167 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,808 There is definitely a before and after February 13, 2017. 168 00:08:39,394 --> 00:08:41,605 It is definitely a line in the sand for 169 00:08:41,688 --> 00:08:45,400 life before and life after in our family. 170 00:08:45,483 --> 00:08:48,153 I mean, it's never going to be the same. 171 00:08:54,784 --> 00:08:57,871 We weren't in school on Monday the 13th 172 00:08:57,954 --> 00:09:00,165 because we had a makeup snow day. 173 00:09:01,082 --> 00:09:05,420 Abby had stayed the night at Libby's house. 174 00:09:05,503 --> 00:09:08,173 And the sun's shining and it's over 50 degrees 175 00:09:08,256 --> 00:09:11,301 in the beginning of February. 176 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:13,637 That's when the guys start getting the motorcycles out, 177 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,015 and spring is just around the corner. 178 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:22,187 The girls got up, and my son Derrick, 179 00:09:22,270 --> 00:09:25,649 who is Libby's father, had made them breakfast. 180 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:29,194 Libby's sister, Kelsi, said that she was going 181 00:09:29,277 --> 00:09:32,531 to go to her boyfriend's house, 182 00:09:32,614 --> 00:09:34,408 and Libby jumped up and said, 183 00:09:34,491 --> 00:09:38,453 hey, will you take us out to the trails? 184 00:09:38,536 --> 00:09:40,831 I mean, the entire trail system, it... you know, 185 00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:44,126 it's... it's meant to bring you from town out to the bridge, 186 00:09:44,209 --> 00:09:45,794 bridge back to town. 187 00:09:45,877 --> 00:09:51,007 So it is the 501 Trail that would lead 188 00:09:51,090 --> 00:09:52,968 up to the Monon High Bridge. 189 00:09:53,051 --> 00:09:55,303 And at the Monon High Bridge 190 00:09:55,386 --> 00:09:58,432 is where that trail terminates. 191 00:09:58,515 --> 00:10:01,393 The Monon High Bridge was kind of like a place away 192 00:10:01,476 --> 00:10:04,980 from our parents, where we could go and mess around. 193 00:10:05,063 --> 00:10:07,899 It was very secluded, but it was very pretty. 194 00:10:11,861 --> 00:10:14,531 So Libby looked at me and said, can we go? 195 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,450 Dad's going to pick us up. 196 00:10:16,533 --> 00:10:19,578 I said, well, you better take a jacket because 197 00:10:19,661 --> 00:10:21,246 it might get chilly, you know, and... 198 00:10:21,329 --> 00:10:24,166 and the last words she said to me, 199 00:10:24,249 --> 00:10:25,959 she was standing there and she said, 200 00:10:26,042 --> 00:10:28,002 Grandma, I'll be OK. 201 00:10:35,510 --> 00:10:37,721 She turned around and walked out. 202 00:10:37,804 --> 00:10:40,140 Uh, she was happy. 203 00:10:40,223 --> 00:10:42,642 She was smiling when she left. 204 00:10:42,725 --> 00:10:45,812 That was around 1:30. 205 00:10:45,895 --> 00:10:52,861 And it was about 3:30 when Derrick called me. 206 00:10:52,944 --> 00:10:59,367 He had tried calling Libby and she didn't answer. 207 00:11:00,785 --> 00:11:03,789 He got out and walked a little bit, didn't see them. 208 00:11:03,872 --> 00:11:06,124 He called me and he said, 209 00:11:06,207 --> 00:11:08,919 Libby's not answering her phone. 210 00:11:09,002 --> 00:11:10,670 That's not like Libby. 211 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:23,850 I was at work waiting tables, bartending 212 00:11:23,933 --> 00:11:27,979 at a local restaurant, and the phone started ringing. 213 00:11:30,857 --> 00:11:32,359 And it was Becky telling me that 214 00:11:32,442 --> 00:11:34,611 the girls had gone on a walk 215 00:11:34,694 --> 00:11:37,781 and when Derrick went to pick them up, they weren't there. 216 00:11:37,864 --> 00:11:40,325 I was not immediately concerned. 217 00:11:40,408 --> 00:11:44,788 I really just assumed that the girls were just goofing off, 218 00:11:44,871 --> 00:11:47,206 you know, losing track of time. 219 00:11:51,669 --> 00:11:53,547 Mike and I went to the trails, 220 00:11:53,630 --> 00:11:56,424 and we got out and walked a little bit. 221 00:11:56,507 --> 00:11:58,135 Didn't see them. 222 00:11:58,218 --> 00:12:01,221 And finally I said, I think 223 00:12:01,304 --> 00:12:03,139 we need to call the police 224 00:12:03,222 --> 00:12:05,099 because it's going to be dark soon. 225 00:12:08,645 --> 00:12:11,857 In February of 2017, I was the chief deputy 226 00:12:11,940 --> 00:12:13,525 of the Carroll County Sheriff's Department. 227 00:12:13,608 --> 00:12:17,737 At around 5:15 PM, we received a call from Mike Patty, 228 00:12:17,820 --> 00:12:18,947 the grandfather. 229 00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:25,912 And the deputies arrived at the trail 230 00:12:25,995 --> 00:12:29,958 shortly after, started looking on foot for the girls. 231 00:12:33,544 --> 00:12:37,048 I got the phone call from Kelsi a little bit before 6:00. 232 00:12:37,131 --> 00:12:40,843 She said, Mom, have you seen Libby? 233 00:12:42,387 --> 00:12:45,891 Now, you have to realize that I was living in Kentucky, 234 00:12:45,974 --> 00:12:49,853 250 miles away, and I was at work. 235 00:12:49,936 --> 00:12:51,605 So I was like, what? 236 00:12:51,688 --> 00:12:53,523 No, obviously I haven't seen Libby. 237 00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:55,108 What do you mean? 238 00:12:55,191 --> 00:12:58,695 And she said, Mom, we can't find Libby. 239 00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:01,447 And I literally dropped to my knees. 240 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:08,413 We started getting information 241 00:13:08,496 --> 00:13:10,707 out there on social media. 242 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:15,420 My mom sees on Facebook that they're missing. 243 00:13:15,503 --> 00:13:17,422 I got a text from my mom. 244 00:13:17,505 --> 00:13:21,176 My sister asked me if I had heard from her. 245 00:13:21,259 --> 00:13:24,095 The news spread quickly through our community. 246 00:13:24,178 --> 00:13:25,597 We were starting to get some phone calls like, 247 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,266 hey, I may have saw them here, or I may have saw them there. 248 00:13:28,349 --> 00:13:34,064 And that's how I think we saw the Snapchat photo. 249 00:13:42,572 --> 00:13:46,868 Around 2:07, Libby posted a picture of Abby to Snapchat. 250 00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:50,205 Somebody sent it and said, hey, they were on the bridge. 251 00:13:50,288 --> 00:13:52,791 Monon High Bridge, it's an old railroad bridge 252 00:13:52,874 --> 00:13:56,169 that's a very dangerous bridge to be walking on. 253 00:13:56,252 --> 00:13:58,046 It's very up high off the ground. 254 00:13:58,129 --> 00:14:00,256 It's got a creek that runs underneath it. 255 00:14:00,339 --> 00:14:04,635 The railroad ties have big gaps in between them. 256 00:14:06,471 --> 00:14:09,683 At that point, they started to look under the bridge, 257 00:14:09,766 --> 00:14:11,851 trying to locate the girls. 258 00:14:15,938 --> 00:14:17,399 I'd seen Libby's Snap story, 259 00:14:17,482 --> 00:14:19,943 but her posting a picture of Abby on it 260 00:14:20,026 --> 00:14:21,111 and posting a picture of the bridge 261 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:23,029 wasn't really anything out of the ordinary. 262 00:14:24,238 --> 00:14:26,533 When I first saw the Snapchat photo, 263 00:14:26,616 --> 00:14:28,952 I said, Abs in big trouble. 264 00:14:29,035 --> 00:14:30,286 She's in big trouble. 265 00:14:33,247 --> 00:14:36,251 I think the worry set in once it becomes dark. 266 00:14:36,334 --> 00:14:38,461 You know, they weren't dressed to be out there, 267 00:14:38,544 --> 00:14:40,129 and the temperature's dropping. 268 00:14:41,714 --> 00:14:45,301 My nephew worked at the local TV station. 269 00:14:45,384 --> 00:14:48,054 And he came and said, hey, let me help you. 270 00:14:48,137 --> 00:14:49,264 Let's get this out on the news. 271 00:14:49,347 --> 00:14:51,808 Two Carroll County girls have gone missing 272 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:54,686 near the Monon High Bridge trail in Delphi. 273 00:14:54,769 --> 00:14:56,104 The news had showed up. 274 00:14:56,187 --> 00:15:00,025 Scary situation right now, and I just... 275 00:15:00,108 --> 00:15:01,359 I just want her home. 276 00:15:01,442 --> 00:15:04,863 I just remember the news flash came on. 277 00:15:04,946 --> 00:15:07,449 It was like, there's two girls missing in Delphi, 278 00:15:07,532 --> 00:15:09,951 and I'm like, did I hear that right? 279 00:15:10,034 --> 00:15:12,454 Police are asking for the public's help. 280 00:15:12,537 --> 00:15:15,165 If anyone knows anything about where they could be. 281 00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:18,209 At some point, it was like the whole town of Delphi 282 00:15:18,292 --> 00:15:20,128 was literally lit up with flashlights. 283 00:15:20,211 --> 00:15:21,546 People were out looking. 284 00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:25,216 This is getting serious. 285 00:15:25,299 --> 00:15:27,552 It's getting scary. 286 00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:30,805 The police called me in about midnight 287 00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:33,474 and told me that they were calling off the search. 288 00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:39,481 It is very treacherous terrain out there, 289 00:15:39,564 --> 00:15:41,316 and they were worried about volunteers 290 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:44,819 and, uh, officers getting injured. 291 00:15:44,902 --> 00:15:48,573 I was livid. 292 00:15:48,656 --> 00:15:50,158 These girls are lost. 293 00:15:50,241 --> 00:15:52,035 They're hurt. They're freezing. 294 00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:54,370 And I just could not wrap my head 295 00:15:54,453 --> 00:15:55,538 around them calling off the search. 296 00:15:55,621 --> 00:15:56,790 I still can't. 297 00:15:59,041 --> 00:16:02,712 We just knew they were hurt and we needed to find them. 298 00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:12,972 The morning of February 14th, 299 00:16:13,055 --> 00:16:16,017 going to school was hard. 300 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:17,393 I mean, you walk in the doors 301 00:16:17,476 --> 00:16:19,687 and it's like, nobody's laughing. 302 00:16:19,770 --> 00:16:21,606 It's quiet. 303 00:16:21,689 --> 00:16:25,234 There's a fear that this could be bad. 304 00:16:28,196 --> 00:16:29,572 13-year-old Abigail Williams 305 00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:32,867 and Liberty German were reported missing yesterday. 306 00:16:35,161 --> 00:16:38,331 I arrived on February 14th, uh, 307 00:16:38,414 --> 00:16:40,125 outside the volunteer fire department 308 00:16:40,208 --> 00:16:42,961 to a scene of searchers 309 00:16:43,044 --> 00:16:45,338 and other local news outlets, 310 00:16:45,421 --> 00:16:48,091 Indianapolis-based news outlets. 311 00:16:48,174 --> 00:16:50,260 Police continue to search for two teenage girls 312 00:16:50,343 --> 00:16:52,095 who went missing early yesterday. 313 00:16:52,178 --> 00:16:54,180 It's been nearly 24 hours, of course, 314 00:16:54,263 --> 00:16:55,598 since they were reported missing. 315 00:16:55,681 --> 00:16:57,100 Police, sheriffs, firefighters, 316 00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:58,977 and the Department of Natural Resources 317 00:16:59,060 --> 00:17:01,854 are all involved in the search for those teenagers right now. 318 00:17:03,481 --> 00:17:06,276 Delphi was very, very strong. 319 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,697 Everybody came together and just had one goal, 320 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:13,700 and that was to find those girls. 321 00:17:13,783 --> 00:17:16,161 We were out in the middle of this field. 322 00:17:16,244 --> 00:17:20,373 We had finished our grid and we were walking back 323 00:17:20,456 --> 00:17:23,960 and a friend of ours came running up to us. 324 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:28,047 Uh, her husband had called her and said they found them. 325 00:17:30,841 --> 00:17:32,469 So two searchers spotted 326 00:17:32,552 --> 00:17:36,473 some clothing in the creek that was up against a jam. 327 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:39,267 And from there on a little bit further, 328 00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:42,520 they located the two missing girls. 329 00:17:51,612 --> 00:17:53,656 I was on my way to the gas station, 330 00:17:53,739 --> 00:17:54,991 and my phone rang. 331 00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:58,953 It was Derrick. 332 00:17:59,036 --> 00:18:02,707 The pastor of our church said hey, Anna, has anybody... 333 00:18:02,790 --> 00:18:06,211 anybody come talk to you, like, just now? 334 00:18:06,294 --> 00:18:07,712 And I... I said, no. 335 00:18:07,795 --> 00:18:09,756 He goes, well, I need you to come with me and come upstairs. 336 00:18:09,839 --> 00:18:12,926 And I answered the phone, you know, kind of, you know, 337 00:18:13,009 --> 00:18:15,094 half excited, like, oh, God, this is... 338 00:18:15,177 --> 00:18:16,304 this is what I've been waiting for. 339 00:18:16,387 --> 00:18:19,724 And he said, so we... we found the girls. 340 00:18:19,807 --> 00:18:20,892 They found them. 341 00:18:20,975 --> 00:18:24,270 He said, Carrie, they found the girls. 342 00:18:24,353 --> 00:18:27,232 But that's all they... that's all they said to us. 343 00:18:27,315 --> 00:18:33,071 And I was, for, like, a split second, 344 00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:34,739 so happy. 345 00:18:34,822 --> 00:18:39,994 I looked over, and my sister was sitting on a trailer. 346 00:18:40,077 --> 00:18:41,496 I was excited. 347 00:18:41,579 --> 00:18:43,873 I went running over there, and I said, they found them. 348 00:18:43,956 --> 00:18:46,459 And it was not what we thought it was at all. 349 00:18:46,542 --> 00:18:51,005 And she just kept crying and saying, I'm sorry. 350 00:18:51,088 --> 00:18:52,173 I'm so sorry. 351 00:18:52,256 --> 00:18:53,883 And I'm like, what are you talking about? 352 00:18:53,966 --> 00:18:55,301 But he didn't say anything. 353 00:18:55,384 --> 00:18:58,471 So I'm... are they OK? 354 00:18:58,554 --> 00:19:01,140 He said, no. 355 00:19:20,034 --> 00:19:23,705 We have found two bodies in Deer Creek 356 00:19:23,788 --> 00:19:25,581 about a mile east of town. 357 00:19:25,664 --> 00:19:30,795 Um, we are investigating this as... as a, uh, crime scene. 358 00:19:30,878 --> 00:19:32,797 Uh, we suspect foul play. 359 00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:41,472 The bodies were found over there, 360 00:19:41,555 --> 00:19:43,182 just up past the bank, 361 00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:47,729 near some trees, on some property over there. 362 00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:49,939 Looking at this crime scene, you... you just... 363 00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:53,192 you got a sense that there was just something very sinister, 364 00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:55,528 very evil that had occurred. 365 00:19:55,611 --> 00:19:58,865 It just felt different than any crime scene 366 00:19:58,948 --> 00:20:01,367 that I have ever seen. 367 00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:04,287 This case very much still haunts me. 368 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:06,914 Libby was closest to the biggest tree. 369 00:20:06,997 --> 00:20:10,376 And then Abby was off to the side of her. 370 00:20:10,459 --> 00:20:15,048 Libby was completely nude, no clothing on whatsoever. 371 00:20:15,131 --> 00:20:19,052 Uh, the injuries were very noticeable. 372 00:20:19,135 --> 00:20:24,766 You could see blood around her neck and on her hands as well. 373 00:20:24,849 --> 00:20:29,771 Uh, there were branches laid upon her. 374 00:20:29,854 --> 00:20:33,274 And then Abby was off to the side of her, 375 00:20:33,357 --> 00:20:34,859 which she was dressed. 376 00:20:34,942 --> 00:20:40,573 Later we learned that Abby was wearing Libby's clothes. 377 00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:44,577 It appeared that the girls had been moved a very short 378 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:47,997 distance from the original spot of where they 379 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,415 were possibly murdered. 380 00:20:49,498 --> 00:20:52,501 There was marks that appeared to be drag marks. 381 00:20:55,045 --> 00:20:58,841 There was some blood on a tree at the scene. 382 00:20:58,924 --> 00:21:01,636 It was ultimately determined that it was Libby's blood. 383 00:21:01,719 --> 00:21:05,556 Some people believe that the killer deliberately wrote 384 00:21:05,639 --> 00:21:07,600 something with Libby's blood. 385 00:21:07,683 --> 00:21:09,185 The branches that was on the girls, 386 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:10,895 was it to cover them up, 387 00:21:10,978 --> 00:21:12,980 or was there a meaning behind it? 388 00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:16,984 Makes you wonder whether this was a satanic-type killing. 389 00:21:26,202 --> 00:21:29,414 I've done over 7,000 autopsies, 390 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:32,125 but this case stands out. 391 00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:35,086 The fact that these were two teenage girls, 392 00:21:35,169 --> 00:21:38,423 that it was an outdoor scene in northern Indiana, 393 00:21:38,506 --> 00:21:42,927 we just don't see that sort of thing on a routine basis. 394 00:21:43,010 --> 00:21:45,972 This is purely speculative, but I'm going to guess probably 395 00:21:46,055 --> 00:21:49,392 that Abby was the first to die and that after Libby saw 396 00:21:49,475 --> 00:21:51,644 that Abby had been killed, she realized this was 397 00:21:51,727 --> 00:21:53,771 a life-or-death struggle, which prompted her now 398 00:21:53,854 --> 00:21:55,481 to put up a fight because obviously 399 00:21:55,564 --> 00:21:57,191 it's, you know, do or die, 400 00:21:57,274 --> 00:21:58,901 hence the reason that she had had multiple wounds 401 00:21:58,984 --> 00:22:00,361 across her neck. 402 00:22:04,615 --> 00:22:07,285 We found a single roughly half-inch 403 00:22:07,368 --> 00:22:08,619 sharp force injury to the neck 404 00:22:08,702 --> 00:22:13,624 deep enough to hit one of her jugular veins on Abby. 405 00:22:13,707 --> 00:22:14,917 I did not see anything to indicate 406 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,378 any type of sexual assault. 407 00:22:17,461 --> 00:22:19,547 In the case of Libby, as far as I could tell, 408 00:22:19,630 --> 00:22:22,132 there was no evidence of a sexual assault with her either. 409 00:22:25,219 --> 00:22:27,597 That doesn't quite add up. 410 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,765 If you're going to strip them down, 411 00:22:29,848 --> 00:22:33,519 why did we find no evidence of sexual assault? 412 00:22:33,602 --> 00:22:36,314 Libby's got four total injuries to her neck. 413 00:22:36,397 --> 00:22:39,317 I describe them as serrated-like, 414 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,068 but I could never really figure out what had 415 00:22:41,151 --> 00:22:43,404 caused those sort of wounds. 416 00:22:43,487 --> 00:22:45,198 I mean, this is a much more adrenaline-fueled 417 00:22:45,281 --> 00:22:49,494 sort of attack compared to what we had with Abby. 418 00:22:49,577 --> 00:22:52,872 What kind of evil person would want 419 00:22:52,955 --> 00:22:54,665 to commit a crime like this? 420 00:23:00,796 --> 00:23:02,423 We have not gotten that far into the investigation. 421 00:23:02,506 --> 00:23:04,342 We are asking for anyone to come forward 422 00:23:04,425 --> 00:23:07,470 who might have seen somebody out there on Monday, 423 00:23:07,553 --> 00:23:09,972 especially if they were near the Monon High Bridge. 424 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:11,599 I just remember my husband, Ricky, was like, 425 00:23:11,682 --> 00:23:13,226 well, I was out on the trail. 426 00:23:13,309 --> 00:23:15,394 I said, you need to go tell somebody 427 00:23:15,477 --> 00:23:17,939 at the police department you were on the trail. 428 00:23:18,022 --> 00:23:21,275 So he met with this conservation officer. 429 00:23:21,358 --> 00:23:25,446 He goes, you know, they just took my information 430 00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:27,156 and left it at that. 431 00:23:29,658 --> 00:23:33,454 After they told us that the girls were deceased, 432 00:23:33,537 --> 00:23:39,252 I do remember that they took us all into different rooms. 433 00:23:39,335 --> 00:23:41,254 And I'm answering all these questions, 434 00:23:41,337 --> 00:23:43,256 thinking I'm just helping them. 435 00:23:43,339 --> 00:23:47,843 And later on, I realized, no, they... 436 00:23:47,926 --> 00:23:50,721 they were interrogating us. 437 00:23:50,804 --> 00:23:54,684 I was just waiting, trying to find out what happened. 438 00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:57,311 I couldn't possibly have imagined what it was. 439 00:23:57,394 --> 00:23:59,522 There is a lot of ugliness in Delphi, 440 00:23:59,605 --> 00:24:01,482 and things started being revealed. 441 00:24:14,203 --> 00:24:16,664 No, I'm excited. 442 00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:21,085 We were children when it happened. 443 00:24:21,168 --> 00:24:24,797 To mourn one of your best friends when you're a child, 444 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,009 it's very, very hard. 445 00:24:31,762 --> 00:24:34,390 We were all super close friends. 446 00:24:36,058 --> 00:24:37,101 I can't believe you still have this. 447 00:24:37,184 --> 00:24:38,853 Yeah. 448 00:24:38,936 --> 00:24:40,312 I forgot I still had it. 449 00:24:44,233 --> 00:24:45,484 Her laugh. 450 00:24:45,567 --> 00:24:47,111 Right now, we're rearranging Libby's room 451 00:24:47,194 --> 00:24:48,112 and it's kind of a mess. 452 00:24:48,195 --> 00:24:49,405 Yep, Libby's got a good idea. 453 00:24:49,488 --> 00:24:50,489 She's just going to move it herself. 454 00:24:50,572 --> 00:24:51,657 And then she's like, 455 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:52,950 I'm just going to jump off of it. 456 00:24:53,033 --> 00:24:56,037 And I said, OK, and then she hit her head on my wall. 457 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:57,371 It hurt really bad. 458 00:24:57,454 --> 00:24:59,040 I hit it, like, up there. 459 00:24:59,123 --> 00:25:02,710 It was funny, though. 460 00:25:02,793 --> 00:25:05,046 That is so funny. 461 00:25:05,129 --> 00:25:07,590 Libby and Abby were the kindest people I knew. 462 00:25:07,673 --> 00:25:09,884 They were robbed, and we were all robbed. 463 00:25:14,221 --> 00:25:16,599 Overnight, Delphi changed. 464 00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:19,602 It was shock, sadness, 465 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:22,313 um, the realization that something 466 00:25:22,396 --> 00:25:25,566 really truly evil was here. 467 00:25:25,649 --> 00:25:27,777 The whole town was devastated. 468 00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:33,032 I felt so badly, especially for the mothers. 469 00:25:33,115 --> 00:25:34,492 An emotional day 470 00:25:34,575 --> 00:25:36,869 saying goodbye to Abby and Libby. 471 00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:40,164 A huge crowd gathered here at Delphi Middle and High Schools 472 00:25:40,247 --> 00:25:41,832 for a private visitation. 473 00:25:47,713 --> 00:25:50,007 I don't know how we got through. 474 00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:54,095 I do remember we learned how Libby died 475 00:25:54,178 --> 00:25:57,139 because the funeral director told us we needed 476 00:25:57,222 --> 00:26:00,059 to bring in clothes, and he said, 477 00:26:00,142 --> 00:26:03,312 you need to make sure you have a scarf. 478 00:26:03,395 --> 00:26:08,818 It took a while to hit me, oh... 479 00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:12,279 oh, she needs a scarf. 480 00:26:12,362 --> 00:26:15,116 I mean, nobody would tell us, 481 00:26:15,199 --> 00:26:18,035 but that's how we figured it out. 482 00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:24,875 I mean, the dumbest thing I've ever had to do 483 00:26:24,958 --> 00:26:26,543 is pick out a casket. 484 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,424 It's the strangest question anybody will ever ask you 485 00:26:31,507 --> 00:26:35,344 is to pick out a casket for your child. 486 00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:37,388 None of it seemed real. 487 00:26:37,471 --> 00:26:39,473 Law enforcement was at the viewing, 488 00:26:39,556 --> 00:26:41,976 obviously scanning for people, looking for things. 489 00:26:42,059 --> 00:26:45,855 Going to their viewing, I was very scared because I'm like, 490 00:26:45,938 --> 00:26:48,399 oh, my gosh, like, this person 491 00:26:48,482 --> 00:26:51,193 could be standing right beside me. 492 00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:53,779 It is a case that is in the national spotlight, 493 00:26:53,862 --> 00:26:56,240 and there are no answers in sight, 494 00:26:56,323 --> 00:26:58,492 and that has many people on edge. 495 00:26:58,575 --> 00:26:59,535 We're checking the cell phones. 496 00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:00,786 We're checking their social media. 497 00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:03,122 We're looking at every possible option. 498 00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:04,999 The investigation was in full swing, 499 00:27:05,082 --> 00:27:06,500 and people are coming to your home 500 00:27:06,583 --> 00:27:08,294 and they're going through the rooms 501 00:27:08,377 --> 00:27:10,463 And they're talking to the friends. 502 00:27:10,546 --> 00:27:12,464 But, you know, no new updates. 503 00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:18,596 No, we cannot do that at this time. 504 00:27:18,679 --> 00:27:21,307 What made it feel like it was a particular sinister 505 00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:24,685 crime scene was the fact that they weren't releasing details. 506 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:32,193 We're not... at this point in time, I don't even 507 00:27:32,276 --> 00:27:33,569 want to mention that either. 508 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,821 They wouldn't tell us how the girls were killed. 509 00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:39,116 They wouldn't tell us how the girls were found. 510 00:27:39,199 --> 00:27:41,535 But we had heard rumors 511 00:27:41,618 --> 00:27:44,329 that the girls had had their necks cut. 512 00:27:45,414 --> 00:27:48,584 There were rumors going around right away. 513 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:49,960 Everybody's calling everybody. 514 00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:51,545 Everybody's alarmed. 515 00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:53,172 Everybody's scared. 516 00:28:05,475 --> 00:28:08,646 My response is... is no. 517 00:28:08,729 --> 00:28:10,606 Two girls just got murdered in our town. 518 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:13,359 How... how can we not be fearful? 519 00:28:13,442 --> 00:28:16,695 Nobody really had an answer on who 520 00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:19,865 was out there killing children. 521 00:28:19,948 --> 00:28:23,953 You were scared of anyone and everyone. 522 00:28:24,036 --> 00:28:26,330 It was a nightmare. 523 00:28:26,413 --> 00:28:29,208 But then we had a big break in the case. 524 00:28:29,291 --> 00:28:32,044 Breaking new details emerging tonight. 525 00:28:32,127 --> 00:28:34,129 A breakthrough in the Delphi double murder investigation. 526 00:28:34,212 --> 00:28:36,173 New developments in the case of two young girls 527 00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:38,717 killed while hiking in Indiana. 528 00:28:43,889 --> 00:28:45,724 Tonight, new chilling evidence 529 00:28:45,807 --> 00:28:48,060 Indiana investigators believe could help them solve 530 00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:50,855 the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German. 531 00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:52,231 They say one of the girls 532 00:28:52,314 --> 00:28:54,733 secretly recorded him before they were killed. 533 00:28:54,816 --> 00:28:56,944 Shown in front of me, an enlarged depiction 534 00:28:57,027 --> 00:29:00,531 of the person believed to be the suspect in this case. 535 00:29:00,614 --> 00:29:04,243 We are actively looking for this person. 536 00:29:04,326 --> 00:29:06,829 The police were able to retrieve video 537 00:29:06,912 --> 00:29:10,291 from Libby's phone, where she had recorded 538 00:29:10,374 --> 00:29:14,879 a person on the bridge that was directly behind Abby. 539 00:29:14,962 --> 00:29:19,466 The photo that was distributed was taken off the video 540 00:29:19,549 --> 00:29:22,720 that Libby had recorded on her phone. 541 00:29:22,803 --> 00:29:25,556 Libby actually held the phone down to her side, 542 00:29:25,639 --> 00:29:27,516 which was upside down at the time, 543 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,144 and was only able to capture the person on the bridge 544 00:29:30,227 --> 00:29:32,312 for just a brief few seconds, if that. 545 00:29:34,731 --> 00:29:37,860 The police then released audio from the video 546 00:29:37,943 --> 00:29:39,862 from Libby's phone. 547 00:29:39,945 --> 00:29:41,739 We're going to share this audio clip with you 548 00:29:41,822 --> 00:29:44,575 momentarily, with the hope that somebody 549 00:29:44,658 --> 00:29:46,368 will recognize this voice. 550 00:29:46,451 --> 00:29:49,455 I want to be very clear that what you're about to hear 551 00:29:49,538 --> 00:29:50,915 is just three words. 552 00:29:50,998 --> 00:29:51,999 Play the clip, please. 553 00:30:01,717 --> 00:30:04,929 The audio is also from Liberty's phone. 554 00:30:05,012 --> 00:30:08,432 She had the presence of mind to have the phone on 555 00:30:08,515 --> 00:30:11,476 and to capture video, as well as audio. 556 00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:12,121 That Libby was able to get the video was very amazing. 557 00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:14,832 She wasn't going to go down without a fight, 558 00:31:14,915 --> 00:31:17,793 without having him on her phone and having 559 00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:20,629 a trail of breadcrumbs that led right to him. 560 00:31:20,712 --> 00:31:22,798 Each and every person listening, 561 00:31:22,881 --> 00:31:27,136 watching, or seeing this in some form, 562 00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:29,346 we need you. 563 00:31:29,429 --> 00:31:31,015 Libby and Abby need you. 564 00:31:31,098 --> 00:31:33,684 We believe this person is our suspect. 565 00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:38,355 Someone knows who this individual is. 566 00:31:38,438 --> 00:31:40,607 Is it a family member? 567 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:42,776 Is it a neighbor? 568 00:31:42,859 --> 00:31:43,902 Is it an acquaintance? 569 00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:52,119 I think a lot of folks thought it was somebody local 570 00:31:52,202 --> 00:31:54,204 because of the bridge itself and its location. 571 00:31:54,287 --> 00:31:57,082 It would not be something easily found 572 00:31:57,165 --> 00:31:59,710 if you didn't know the area well. 573 00:31:59,793 --> 00:32:01,253 Nobody just happens across it. 574 00:32:01,336 --> 00:32:03,672 What if I know him? 575 00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:06,383 What if somebody I know did this? 576 00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:08,385 Call us. 577 00:32:08,468 --> 00:32:11,388 You could be the person that helps us 578 00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:14,808 to solve this horrible crime. 579 00:32:14,891 --> 00:32:18,479 The man on the bridge became known as Bridge Guy. 580 00:32:18,562 --> 00:32:21,315 The video and the audio from the Bridge Guy video 581 00:32:21,398 --> 00:32:23,442 captured people's attention all around the world. 582 00:32:32,242 --> 00:32:36,830 It was shocking when this became such a global story 583 00:32:36,913 --> 00:32:39,958 and such a high-profile case. 584 00:32:40,041 --> 00:32:43,003 It was on every news channel that you could think of. 585 00:32:43,086 --> 00:32:44,171 Now, here's another look at the man 586 00:32:44,254 --> 00:32:46,048 police are so desperate to talk to. 587 00:32:46,131 --> 00:32:49,093 The FBI is asking people across the country. 588 00:32:49,176 --> 00:32:51,136 Here's the image police want the public to see. 589 00:32:51,219 --> 00:32:54,348 Over 11,000 tips have been submitted. 590 00:32:54,431 --> 00:32:55,974 And the reward for any information 591 00:32:56,057 --> 00:33:01,688 leading to an arrest is now up to $1/4 million. 592 00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:03,315 I've never seen as many resources 593 00:33:03,398 --> 00:33:06,693 thrown at a case like this. 594 00:33:06,776 --> 00:33:08,737 Unified Command was set up. 595 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,365 It was this task force with not just the state police 596 00:33:11,448 --> 00:33:15,744 but with the, uh, FBI and other federal agencies. 597 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:17,955 I'm sure Delphi thought it was going 598 00:33:18,038 --> 00:33:19,456 to be solved within days. 599 00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:20,541 I was really hopeful. 600 00:33:20,624 --> 00:33:22,251 I'm like, OK, this is enough, right? 601 00:33:22,334 --> 00:33:24,586 Somebody's going to recognize this person. 602 00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:26,797 I don't think anybody realized how difficult 603 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,382 it would be to identify Bridge Guy. 604 00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:37,599 My name is Tom Webster. 605 00:33:37,682 --> 00:33:39,852 I was an office manager and executive assistant 606 00:33:39,935 --> 00:33:43,397 to, like, the CEO of a bank when I first got into the case. 607 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,150 But now I'm just doing online content. 608 00:33:46,233 --> 00:33:49,778 I saw the video and the audio from the Bridge Guy video, 609 00:33:49,861 --> 00:33:53,699 and I absolutely became obsessed with this case. 610 00:33:53,782 --> 00:33:56,118 Well, law enforcement asked for help and tips, 611 00:33:56,201 --> 00:33:58,453 but they didn't really give a lot of information. 612 00:33:58,536 --> 00:34:00,497 So it was up to YouTubers and people online 613 00:34:00,580 --> 00:34:02,541 to do the research on their own 614 00:34:02,624 --> 00:34:03,792 and then share it online. 615 00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:05,502 It's, like, wide out in the open, 616 00:34:05,585 --> 00:34:07,546 so it's really dangerous for Bridge Guy 617 00:34:07,629 --> 00:34:10,632 to have walked, not knowing who's going 618 00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:11,925 to be driving on this road. 619 00:34:14,844 --> 00:34:19,766 I thought, let me try to figure out who Bridge Guy was. 620 00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:22,769 You can't really make out the facial features. 621 00:34:22,852 --> 00:34:26,315 So I kind of focused on the non-facial features. 622 00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:30,068 He's wearing boots, jeans, and a blue jacket. 623 00:34:30,151 --> 00:34:31,737 I felt like, around his knees, 624 00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:33,238 there was, like, some black spots. 625 00:34:33,321 --> 00:34:36,116 I initially thought maybe it was some holes in his jeans. 626 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:40,787 A big debate online, was it his hair or a hat? 627 00:34:40,870 --> 00:34:43,999 Bridge Guy appears to be wearing a dark blue jacket 628 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:47,127 with a material light enough to show the outline 629 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:48,879 of something in the front pocket. 630 00:34:48,962 --> 00:34:51,548 I see an outline of something in his pocket 631 00:34:51,631 --> 00:34:53,133 and I couldn't really determine what it was. 632 00:34:53,216 --> 00:34:55,928 And that's when we had the retired CSI tech 633 00:34:56,011 --> 00:34:58,471 take a look at it, and he determined it was a gun. 634 00:35:02,225 --> 00:35:04,227 My name is Frankmeister. 635 00:35:05,687 --> 00:35:07,272 It's one word. 636 00:35:07,355 --> 00:35:10,484 I consider myself a true crime enthusiast. 637 00:35:10,567 --> 00:35:13,737 The JonBenét case started to slow down a little bit, 638 00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:15,822 so I started looking for other cases to look at, 639 00:35:15,905 --> 00:35:18,200 and Delphi came across my screen. 640 00:35:18,283 --> 00:35:21,036 I have spent thousands of hours researching 641 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,038 and covering this case. 642 00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:27,167 I have prioritized this case over family and friends. 643 00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:37,803 No, no obsession with the case at all. 644 00:35:37,886 --> 00:35:41,139 It was our job to help law enforcement 645 00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:42,683 if we had any tips. 646 00:35:42,766 --> 00:35:46,395 That was what the police told us they wanted us to do. 647 00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:50,274 I was just trying to help. 648 00:35:50,357 --> 00:35:52,067 Hey, guys. Welcome back to my channel. 649 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:54,695 This is a live by surprise to report breaking news. 650 00:35:54,778 --> 00:35:57,281 We're getting ready to get on the bridge. 651 00:35:57,364 --> 00:35:59,241 There were a lot of armchair detectives. 652 00:35:59,324 --> 00:36:02,369 Overnight, there was... there was 100 of them. 653 00:36:02,452 --> 00:36:03,662 I couldn't keep up. 654 00:36:03,745 --> 00:36:05,539 I'm not sure that police even knew 655 00:36:05,622 --> 00:36:07,791 what was going to happen once they asked for tips. 656 00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:10,544 Nobody could have imagined 30,000 tips from people 657 00:36:10,627 --> 00:36:13,422 all over the world absolutely obsessed with this case, 658 00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:15,799 accusing various men in the community 659 00:36:15,882 --> 00:36:18,927 of being a double child murderer. 660 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:22,180 The first time I saw the picture of Bridge Guy, 661 00:36:22,263 --> 00:36:24,266 it could have been anybody. 662 00:36:24,349 --> 00:36:26,685 It really could have been anybody. 663 00:36:26,768 --> 00:36:29,229 In the beginning, I looked at everybody. 664 00:36:29,312 --> 00:36:33,025 The feeling was always there of either 665 00:36:33,108 --> 00:36:35,068 running into somebody at the gas station 666 00:36:35,151 --> 00:36:36,903 or the grocery store. 667 00:36:36,986 --> 00:36:40,490 You never knew if the person you just walked right past 668 00:36:40,573 --> 00:36:43,744 was, you know, the person that did this. 669 00:36:43,827 --> 00:36:47,331 It was like no one could trust anyone anymore, 670 00:36:47,414 --> 00:36:50,542 no matter how long you knew them, how close you were. 671 00:36:50,625 --> 00:36:52,210 It became a witch hunt in Delphi. 672 00:36:52,293 --> 00:36:54,379 The police came to my house, 673 00:36:54,462 --> 00:36:57,299 and they took my dad's DNA. 674 00:36:57,382 --> 00:37:01,470 Like I was terrified because I'm like, what does that mean? 675 00:37:01,553 --> 00:37:04,681 You know, like, could that be my dad? 676 00:37:04,764 --> 00:37:07,017 Nobody was off-limits. 677 00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:08,018 Nobody. 678 00:37:08,101 --> 00:37:10,020 It went so big so fast. 679 00:37:10,103 --> 00:37:11,646 It was information overload. 680 00:37:13,815 --> 00:37:17,319 It was definitely not the normal for Carroll County. 681 00:37:17,402 --> 00:37:20,405 It was hard to keep under control. 682 00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:31,792 On July 17, 2017, the Indiana State Police 683 00:37:31,875 --> 00:37:34,795 released a sketch artist image. 684 00:37:34,878 --> 00:37:36,838 So the sketch was from a witness 685 00:37:36,921 --> 00:37:39,132 that had been on the trail that day that saw 686 00:37:39,215 --> 00:37:42,260 a man that resembled the person 687 00:37:42,343 --> 00:37:44,930 that was in Libby German's video. 688 00:37:45,013 --> 00:37:47,182 Police are now releasing a detailed sketch 689 00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:49,768 of the suspect and saying the five-month-old case 690 00:37:49,851 --> 00:37:51,811 is nowhere near over. 691 00:37:53,605 --> 00:37:55,148 We really thought we would have had 692 00:37:55,231 --> 00:37:56,983 somebody in custody by now. 693 00:37:57,066 --> 00:37:58,402 It didn't happen. 694 00:37:58,485 --> 00:38:00,904 I don't know when I stopped getting excited 695 00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:03,407 about every new thing that came on because 696 00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:05,242 it really was just agonizing. 697 00:38:09,496 --> 00:38:12,374 Was there a time that we felt, why? 698 00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:14,709 Why are we still here? Why is it taking this long? 699 00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:16,628 Certainly, we asked that question. 700 00:38:16,711 --> 00:38:18,004 I was not very confident that they would 701 00:38:18,087 --> 00:38:20,298 be able to... to solve this case. 702 00:38:24,177 --> 00:38:27,097 In April 2019, police had a press conference 703 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:28,807 for the first time in a few years. 704 00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:30,142 Into a major new development, 705 00:38:30,225 --> 00:38:32,102 police releasing a new sketch tonight. 706 00:38:32,185 --> 00:38:35,605 They revealed this young guy sketch, whereas previously, 707 00:38:35,688 --> 00:38:38,733 it was an older man, like, 35 to 50, 708 00:38:38,816 --> 00:38:41,153 and this new sketch looked like a 20-year-old. 709 00:38:41,236 --> 00:38:43,238 Why is this new sketch so vastly different 710 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:46,741 than a sketch released nearly two years ago? 711 00:38:46,824 --> 00:38:49,745 This is such a contrast from the first composite photo. 712 00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:52,289 Do you really expect us to buy this, 713 00:38:52,372 --> 00:38:54,040 that it's the same guy? 714 00:38:54,123 --> 00:38:56,293 It turned out that another person 715 00:38:56,376 --> 00:38:58,336 who saw the man on the day of the murders 716 00:38:58,419 --> 00:39:01,506 went to police and said, I'm frustrated that I gave you 717 00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:03,508 this description of this younger man, 718 00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:05,761 yet for the past two years, you've been asking the public 719 00:39:05,844 --> 00:39:07,721 for help finding this older man. 720 00:39:07,804 --> 00:39:10,348 Typically, you don't release two sketches. 721 00:39:10,431 --> 00:39:14,144 And, uh, that was, uh, very confusing 722 00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:16,563 for a lot of people in the community. 723 00:39:16,646 --> 00:39:18,148 Well, obviously, this new sketch, 724 00:39:18,231 --> 00:39:22,736 we've all been looking for the wrong man for 2 1/2 years. 725 00:39:22,819 --> 00:39:25,947 I don't know, it was hard to see the second sketch 726 00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:29,409 and believe that they were on the right track. 727 00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:35,582 As time goes on, you start to lose hope 728 00:39:35,665 --> 00:39:37,167 and you start to believe that they're not 729 00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:40,295 going to find this guy. 730 00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:42,923 I think, over time during this investigation, 731 00:39:43,006 --> 00:39:44,424 the stress is very evident. 732 00:39:44,507 --> 00:39:46,468 We were getting irritated. 733 00:39:48,803 --> 00:39:50,597 These two eighth graders were murdered, 734 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,683 and year after year went on without solving it. 735 00:39:53,766 --> 00:39:56,853 So there was a huge amount of pressure to solve it. 736 00:40:00,273 --> 00:40:02,484 A breakthrough in the Delphi double murder investigation. 737 00:40:02,567 --> 00:40:05,362 This is a day more than five years in the making. 738 00:40:05,445 --> 00:40:07,447 Now to a twist in a shocking crime story 739 00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:09,866 that's captivated so many for years, 740 00:40:09,949 --> 00:40:12,452 the tragic murder of two Indiana teens. 741 00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,746 Since the murders of Abby and Libby 742 00:40:14,829 --> 00:40:17,999 2,086 days ago, 743 00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:21,044 the daily investigative team has worked tirelessly. 744 00:40:21,127 --> 00:40:24,172 I am proud to report that an arrest has been made. 745 00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:27,634 When the news was starting to creep out 746 00:40:27,717 --> 00:40:30,387 that there had been an arrest in this case, 747 00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:32,180 it came as a complete shock. 748 00:40:32,263 --> 00:40:34,057 The suspect, investigators say, 749 00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:36,393 was hiding in plain sight. 750 00:40:36,476 --> 00:40:37,519 50-year-old Richard Allen 751 00:40:37,602 --> 00:40:40,730 has been charged for their murders. 752 00:40:54,202 --> 00:40:55,745 My name is Kathy Allen, 753 00:40:55,828 --> 00:40:58,623 and I am the spouse of Richard Allen. 754 00:40:58,706 --> 00:41:02,294 Richard, Rick, Ricky, 755 00:41:02,377 --> 00:41:05,422 he's my husband of 34 years. 756 00:41:05,505 --> 00:41:06,923 He is a family man. 757 00:41:07,006 --> 00:41:11,428 Ricky is a wonderful, caring, compassionate father. 758 00:41:11,511 --> 00:41:14,263 Nonjudgmental, very giving. 759 00:41:16,641 --> 00:41:18,601 He has good morals. 760 00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:31,781 How dare you accuse someone 761 00:41:31,864 --> 00:41:33,742 who is nothing but a people pleaser 762 00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:35,952 and works out in the public? 763 00:41:36,035 --> 00:41:37,120 How dare you? 764 00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:44,044 I want true justice for Abby and Libby, 765 00:41:44,127 --> 00:41:48,589 but it should not be at the expense of an innocent person.